TRUTH: Not Everyone Calling Themselves a Christian Is

This post is intended for both Christians and non-Christians alike, and it is about a very important issue that needs to be clearly understood. When Obama calls himself a Christian, we need to look at his actions rather than take him at his word.  And this is not my ‘opinion,’ but the word of God.  Here are just a few of the passages from Scripture that speak directly to this point:

Matthew 7:21-23

I Never Knew You

21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

Matthew 7:15-20

You Will Know Them by Their Fruits

15 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? 17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them.

If you read the Apostles letters, you will find repeated warnings to be on guard against false prophets and false teachers spreading bad doctrine within the Church, itself.  This is why we are told to test everything against the spirit, and to pay attention to the fruit of a person’s works.  If the fruit is not of the Spirit, then neither are they – no matter what they may claim.  This is sound Scripture and can easily be supported by anyone who has a decent knowledge of the Word.

Now, let’s use this knowledge to evaluate this story:

Obama Reveals What He Believes Is the ‘Ultimate Betrayal of God’s Will’

“We sometimes see religion twisted … hatred [is waged] against people because of who they are, or how they pray, or who they love,” he said. ”[Extremists] don’t understand the faiths they claim to profess. The killing of the innocent is never fulfilling God’s will. In fact, it’s the ultimate betrayal of God’s will.”

Now, Obama is correct: Scripture does say that killing the innocent is against God’s commandments.  However, Obama has demonstrated that the fruit of his works – his support for abortion – contradicts Scripture and breaks God’s commands.  What’s more, when Obama implies that it is wrong to hate the act of homosexuality, he is again – by his works – demonstrating that he stands in opposition to God’s commands.  Read the story of Sodom and Gomorrah.

Then there is this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=bMUgNg7aD8M

No Christian would make this mistake because Islam is anti-Christ.  Islam specifically denies the divinity of Christ and the Trinity, and Scripture teaches us that this is the Spirit of anti-Christ.  It also borders on the unforgivable sin.  So, why would Obama make such a mistake?  Because he is not a Christian:

Jeremiah Wright: I “Made It Comfortable” For Obama to Accept Christianity Without Having to Renounce Islam (Video Report)

Again, it is not possible to be a Christian and a Muslim at the same time.  However, Islam does allow Obama to lie for the purposes of furthering Islam!

Now, with this in mind, ask yourself whether or not these and other related stories make more sense?

How the White House Responded When We Asked Them Why a Muslim Brotherhood Lobbyist Met With Obama and Biden

FBI Chief: Muslim Brotherhood Supports Terrorism

Surprisingly Candid Answers From the Muslim Brotherhood [this story connects the MB to CAIR]

DOJ: CAIR’s Unindicted Co-Conspirator Status Legit [CAIR is a known terrorist organization]

None of this is consistent with Christian doctrine, but it is consistent with the Constitutional definition of treason:

To wage war against or provide material aid and/or comfort to an enemy waging war against the United States of America.

Scripture teaches us to obey the laws of the government to which we are subject, but it also teaches us that we are to obey God first – even if it means disobeying the ruler of that government.  As a Christian, you cannot follow a leader who is clearly demonstrating a spirit of anti-Christ.  When this happens in the Church, the Apostle Paul tells us we are to put that person out of the Church and leave him to Satan in hope that he or she will come to their senses and repent.  But Obama is not part of the body of Christ; his actions show that this cannot be true.  And because he is demonstrating a spirit of anti-Christ, he cannot be considered to be in right standing as a ruler under God’s law.  And for these and many more related reasons, God’s people must resist this man.

But please note: this does not mean to wage war against him.  That is not what Scripture says.  Scripture tells us to use the laws, and that means vote, petition, amend and – if necessary – push for a new Constitution.  But it also means that, should the time come, you must chose to obey God – even if it means imprisonment and death.  The early brethren went to the lions because they refused to obey Caesar’s command to renounce God, but obeyed God’s command to submit to the law. This is what Roman’s 13 is all about.

11 responses to “TRUTH: Not Everyone Calling Themselves a Christian Is

  1. You can say Obama’s not a very good Christian, but no person on Earth is in a position to judge him “not a Christian” if he professes the faith. He says he is, therefore he is.

    • That is NOT what Scripture teaches. It tells us we will know by the fruit of their works. In fact, the Apostle’s letters repeatedly detail a list of things we are to watch for inside the Church that indicate a spirit of the anti-Christ. Now, if we are not to be discerning of such things, why did they spend so much time instructing us to watch for it and how to identify it?

      Sorry, Mikey, but what you just asserted is one of the Devil’s little tricks. He teaches people to accept these little sayings so they will not look to Scripture for guidance because he knows — if we do — we will be better able to identify him and his work within the body of believers. Obama is clearly such a person.

      • It’s a slick egotistical trick to just assert that if I disagree with you, it’s satanic, but I do know scripture. You’re projecting flaws onto the president, a man you don’t know and have not spoken to in person, that you yourself exhibit. That is false witness.

        You can not discern the heart of a person through TV clips or the radio. You can not discern through the gossip offered by a man’s enemies. You can disagree all you want about how he’s administrating his elective office, but when you assume you have rank to judge whether or not an individual is a Christian when they say they are, you are wrong, period, always. That is God’s province alone. Judgement is his, not yours.

        • No, it is neither sick, nor a trick nor false witness. The man DOES excuse, protect, advocate and advance homosexuality. SIN

          He DOES attack and seek to divide Israel, and God says those who attack and seek to divide Israel shall be cursed. SIN

          He DOES support, protect and defend Islam, an anti-Christ religion. This is a de facto denial of Christ. To ally with God’s enemies is to become an enemy of God. SIN

          Obama has lied — many times. SIN

          Obama has born false witness about his ‘enemies.’ SIN

          These are all the fruits of his own actions, and they are all here for us to see. Scripture tells us we are not to judge his SALVATION — and I’m not. God may well save him. HOWEVER, Scripture also teaches us to be discerning so that we can know the ungodly from the Godly, and to shun those who have made themselves enemies of God. This is all I am doing.

          I suppose it is time for a post on the anti-Christ ‘type,’ so that others can see that it IS manifest in Obama’s actions.

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  3. Reading the comments above, I’d just like to say that it is possible for Obama to be a Christian even if he acts contrary to orthodox Christian teaching. People are afflicted by the plague of ignorance. It is quite possible that Obama developed an understanding of Christianity based on listening to the most errant teachers out. If such is the case, then Jesus Christ may excuse him on judgment day–perfectly possibly knowing the infinity of God’s mercy, especially in regard to human ignorance.

    Nevertheless, you would not be wrong in accusing Obama of not being a Christian since many of his beliefs are clearly counter to Christian teaching. But, he may believe he’s Christian according to his own deficient conscience.

    But, to say that he is not in the body of Christ would require you to prove that he had not been baptized or had not been baptized correctly. All baptized individuals–no matter how evil–remain in the body of Christ. Only death in mortal sin or being placed under anathema (a practice which ended in Vatican II) can sever one from the Body of Christ. Just think of the parable of the wheat and the weeds: they are not separated until the harvest.

    Nevertheless, thanks for your excellent article detailing the wrongs Obama has done. Many socialist and liberal ideas certainly reek of evil.

    • He does not need to be baptized to be in the body of Christ. The thief on the cross was never baptized. Christ taught that baptism was to be followed as an outward sign of obedience, but I do not find anywhere in Scripture where He or anyone taught that it was necessary to be saved.

      That said, Paul DOES teach that outward signs ARE to be considered in our acceptance of others into the body of the Church. In fact, many of the apostles’ letters in the NT deal specifically with false teachings, and they do not teach believers to accept the false teachers. They teach us how to determine them from true believers. This is all I am doing in this post, and I believe I am firmly within the boundaries that the Apostle, Paul, provided.

      It is in this sense that I am saying Obama’s works testify against him — especially if he believes he can reconcile Islam with Christianity. His works certainly suggest he does, and in this sense, he would be among the wolves — not the sheep. And yes, I know about the tares and the wheat, but read Christ’s explanation to the disciples again. He did not say the tares were mis-guided believers; He said they were children of Satan.

      Still, I said in my post and I will say it again: I am not judging the salvation of Obama’s soul. I happen to believe there will be many surprises when we get to heaven, and they will include some people we would never expect to see. But I will hold firm to my assertion that Obama is exhibiting an anti-Christ behavior. And as Paul teaches, one who follows the spirit of anti-Christ is an enemy of God. [note: not that Paul is more authoritative than Christ — he isn’t — but that Paul was Christ’s hand-picked Apostle with the mission of teaching The Way to the Gentiles.]

      • It is absolutely necessary to be baptized in order to be saved. However, God is not bound by sacraments: there is also baptism of desire and baptism of blood by which the Trinity saves souls at the point of death. Yet, the Church from the earliest days has taught that sacramental baptism makes one a temple of the Holy Spirit and a member of Christ’s body. Without baptism, the fruits of Christ’s sacrifice are not conferred on the soul. However, without Baptism, the Holy Spirit can act on any soul and lead him to true belief, but this differs from baptismal regeneration.

        Basically, baptism and the other sacraments accomplish what they signify. Outward action produces an inward change because the Trinity acts in the sacrament. But, this is a fundamental difference between Catholics, Orthodox, and various Protestant strains on one side and Anabaptists and certain Protestants on the other.

        You’re right. The field represents humanity at large, not just the Church. But, some of those tares must be misguided Christians. Certain ones display a certain willfulness in regard to knowing Church teaching. They know that certain things like abortion, euthanasia, pornography, and homosexuality are condemned by the Church; yet, instead of confessing their error, they say the Church has to change its mind! They are part of the Body of Christ, and yet, like cancerous cells, work to harm the body! But, because they have been immersed in the fruits of Christ’s passion, we ought to have confidence that very many will repent of their evil ways.

        • You and I are going to disagree on this point. ALL of Scripture teaches us that we are saved by Grace, through faith and faith alone!

          “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.” (Ephesians 2:8 9)

          Baptism is a work, and it comes AFTER a person has accepted Christ. Thus, you are already saved when you get baptized. All you are doing is showing an outward sign of obedience through an act that connects you to the death and resurrection of Christ. But you do not have to be baptized to be saved. To make that claim, one must ignore or reject many other aspects of Scripture.

          To those who are questioning this, I offer this link:
          What Does the Bible Say about Baptism

          I would also offer a word of caution: we are NEVER to base a doctrine on a single verse of Scripture. That is how the Gospel message becomes perverted.

          Now, because I sincerely wish to build up and strengthen, and because I am revolted by the idea of ever having a hand in tearing down or destroying again (I’ve done far too much of this in my life already), I am going to leave those reading this to look into this matter for themselves. I do not believe this is one of those issues that benefits those who are not already strong in their faith. Just read the Bible for yourself — all of it. And remember, it does not contradict itself. If you think it does, ask God for guidance. He will give it and you will — eventually — see that it was your understanding and not God’s word that was in conflict. This happens to me a lot, which is why I know this works (and why I know what you will find on this and many other issues).

          • I’ve read every book in the Bible at least once. Nowadays, I find myself concentrating on Psalms and the Gospels and find myself thinking that I should read the Epistles more.

            We are saved by grace alone. This is shown most perfectly perhaps when the believer cannot even speak for himself, as in infant baptism. The ability to reason and understand is not always necessary to make one into a son or daughter of God; but, baptism–sacramentally, by desire, or by blood–must occur. In the latter two cases, the application of the fruits of Christ’s saving work is not visible.

            But, the whole problem with arguing from the Bible lies in interpretation. Lutherans, who also believe in sola scriptura, accept the validity, necessity, and actual grace conferred in baptism. I shall certainly read the link you provided, you might also enjoy this link on the early Church Fathers’ opinion of baptism:

            http://www.catholic.com/tracts/early-teachings-on-infant-baptism

            The Church Fathers were closer to the events in Scripture and the Apostolic Age than we are. Might they not also understand Scripture better?

            But, I have enjoyed our conversation. You’re right that doctrinal squabbles can weaken the bonds between Christians. Yet, Christ wishes us all to be one. For that reason, we ought to talk about these things. I argue about doctrine even with my best friends!

            • I understand, and I appreciate your input. We just differ on this issue, and for the reasons stated. HOWEVER, I am glad to see we agree as to our desire to build and not tear down the Body of Christ 🙂

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